Posted on 11 June 2020
Far-left filmmaker Michael Moore and NBC Late Night host Seth Meyers traded conspiracy theories on Wednesday’s show. Moore openly predicted that Donald Trump might not just postpone the 2020 presidential election, it might be “gone” forever.
Meyers, who in theory is a comedian, sounded no different than a liberal message board as he prompted the director on dark possibilities: "How are you feeling, not just about the outcome of the election, but the ability to have an election?” Moore speculated, “I think this is a dry run to the fall. I'm going to just say this…. [Trump has] now read the polls. He sees the data. He's probably going to lose. He knows it. And so now he's got to come up with something and the something will be him trying to postpone the election.”
Moore spun out his fevered scenario about the possibility of the end of elections:
And if we get the second wave of the pandemic in the fall where it's like the second wave of the flu of 1918, the second wave killed twice as many people as the first wave. So we could have an awful situation. And it will make sort of kind of sense to just enough people that, “Yeah, we really probably shouldn't have the election. Let's postpone it.” But in Trump's mind, and the way people like Trump think is, once you postpone something, it's gone.”
No mention, of course, of Moore’s recent praise of “good citizens” burning down “evil” police departments. Instead, Meyers concluded by hinting the filmmaker could be right about this end of democracy thing: “I hope people hear that message. I do. I would love for you to come on again as we get closer, so that we can get what has so far been very accurate predictions from you.”
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Late Night With Seth Meyers
6/10/2020 (6/11/2020 on east coast)
SETH MEYERS: Our first guest tonight is the academy award-winning filmmaker of documentaries like Roger and me, Bowling for columbine and Fahrenheit 9/11. He is the executive producer of Planet of the humans, which is available on YouTube his podcast, Rumble with Michael Moore is available on all podcast platforms. Please welcome back to the show, Michael Moore. Welcome back, Michael it's always so good to see you.
MICHAEL MOORE: Thanks for having me in your home. Sorta.
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1:08 AM ET
MEYERS: It's nice to have you here saying you're optimistic because I feel, more often than not, you show up with some pessimism, pessimism that has been founded. You did predict that Donald Trump would win and --
MOORE: Bad news, I know.
MEYERS: And now, are you worried? Are you worried about -- cause we saw some very long voting lines in Georgia yesterday how are you feeling, not just about the outcome of the election, but the ability to have an election?
MOORE: I'm very worried about this. We all need to be very worried about this Donald Trump, again, I'm, I think, one of the few people on the left that I take him very seriously. When he says something, I actually believe him and him putting up this triple fence wall, first the big fence, then the hard fence, then the cement blocks came I mean, this guy really has a wall fetish clearly now.
MEYERS: Yeah, he likes walls. He likes walls a lot
MOORE: He couldn't build one down on the Mexican border, so he's going to build it around the house he lives in. And like a lot of rich people, though, with their gated communities, he's thinking, “I'm living here in a majority-black city, where's my gated community?” So he puts up his gated community around himself but I really think -- you know, we make jokes about this but I think this is a dry run to the fall. I'm going to just say this I have no inside information Eric and Don Jr. do not confide in me. But I do believe that he's now read the polls. He sees the data. He's probably going to lose. He knows it. And so now he's got to come up with something and the something will be him trying to postpone the election. And if we get the second wave of the pandemic in the fall where it's like the second wave of the flu of 1918, the second wave killed twice as many people as the first wave. So we could have an awful situation. And it will make sort of kind of sense to just enough people that, “Yeah, we really probably shouldn't have the election. Let's postpone it.” But in Trump's mind, and the way people like Trump think is, once you postpone something, it's gone.”
MEYERS: Right
MOORE: We can't let that happen no matter how bad it is that's why the Republicans are trying to stop the mail-in voting seeing the story in Iowa where the Republican Secretary of State, the head of elections, they did mail out things to everybody in Iowa.
MEYERS: Ballots.
MOORE: Not a ballot. You got a form
MEYERS: Oh, right
MOORE: And you could send the form back in. And so they had their largest turnout ever in a primary last week in Iowa and so all the Republicans in Iowa are now ganging up on the Republican in charge of elections, saying this has got to stop.
We can't do this in November cause as trump, again, honest trump said a few weeks ago something to the effect of - I'm not going to do my trump voice. We already –
MEYERS: Thank you. Thank you.
MOORE: It’s your— He said, um, that “If we just let everybody vote, if we make it easy for everybody to vote, that's the end of the Republican Party. That's the end of me.” He actually said that. And I thought, yes, that's right. Because the majority of Americans believe in climate change. The majority of Americans believe women should be paid the same as men. The majority of Americans on, and on, and on, health care for all. That's who we are as a people. And we don't want the Republicans, or his kind of Republican, anymore. They got the message now they got to fix the election. They got to rig it they've got to wire this thing up so that as few people as possible vote. So, I think we all need to have a discussion about this and right now because in order to change how we're going to vote on November 3rd, that's got to be happening right now and it's going to have to happen in the states.
MEYERS: I hope people hear that message. I do. I would love for you to come on again as we get closer, so that we can get what has so far been very accurate predictions from you.